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PostSubject: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyTue Jul 27, 2010 7:34 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyWed Jul 28, 2010 8:41 am

BERG wrote:
Very Interesting:

http://patriotupdate.com/exclusives/read/163/Obama-Czars

Vivek Kundra Information Czar Born in New Delhi, India. Controls all public information, including labels and news releases Monitors all private Internet emails. (hello?)

Grow up.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyWed Jul 28, 2010 1:16 pm

BERG, that page is full of exaggerations, distortions, inaccuracies and lies. I performed some Google searches on three or four random names on the list, and the results completely contradicted the accusations.

For example, about Drug Czar, Gil Kerlikowske, the list says, "Supports legalization of all drugs." Wikipedia, however, says, "In a May 22, 2009 interview on KUOW radio, he [Kerlikowske] said any drug 'legalization' would be 'waving the white flag' and that 'legalization is off the the charts when it comes to discussion, from my viewpoint.'"

That's just one example, but the entire list is full of libelous and uncited accusations that Google searches fail to back up with credible references. The various people on the list may or may not be qualified for their jobs, but they hardly seem to be the radical crackpot revolutionaries that this website accuses them of being.

Even if there is the occasional trace of truth on the list, it's so offset by myriad inaccuracies and deliberate distortions that any credibility it might have had is completely destroyed.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyWed Jul 28, 2010 4:24 pm

Thanks guys. You may find this odd, but I already knew the list was not entirely accurate, but it may be close. Nevertheless, I'm glad that the two of you were able to get it all sorted out. Laughing Many articles taken from The Patriot Update should carefully scrutinized you know. I'm still trying to figure out how to monitor everyone’s email. I'll let you know when I get it figured out. One thing is odd though, neither of you have given any real specifics to counter these allegations. Are you that certain that the vast majority of what you claim to be slanderous/libelous is actually inaccurate? As for credibility of the article, we have nothing but your opinion regarding the matter Pete. I think there may be more truth there than you would like to admit.

"Grow Up" - Trooper Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing As if I actually give a damn what you think. Rolling Eyes Liberals just don't seem to have a real sense of humor.

Here's more:

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29391/

Are you going to dismiss this link too? I have a number of other great links if you'd like to see them; athough, you'd probably dismiss most of it anyway. The Beck list is a little out of date, but I don't know how anyone can dismiss the common theme of radical czar appointment to the Obama administration. Maybe some folks simply like to keep their heads buried in the sand.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyWed Jul 28, 2010 5:16 pm

BERG wrote:
You may find this odd, but I already knew the list was not entirely accurate...
That's a relief. Wink

BERG wrote:
One thing is odd though, neither of you have given any real specifics to counter these allegations. Are you that certain that the vast majority of what you claim to be slanderous/libelous is actually inaccurate?
I provided a specific on Kerlikowske, but if you're asking if I have personal knowledge of his views, no, of course not — I'd never heard of the guy before. The things I researched might be untrue as well, but since references were cited and quotes provided, I was inclined to give them more credibility than the list of inflammatory and wacky-sounding accusations.

I could have provided specifics on the others that I looked into as well, but I'm trying to keep my posts shorter. But, yes, I'm reasonably certain that most everything there contains exaggerations and inaccuracies. When I catch somebody telling, what seem to be, lies, I've found it prudent to dismiss them as liars.

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As for credibility of the article, we have nothing but your opinion regarding the matter Pete. I think there may be more truth there than you would like to admit.
I don't have a dog in this fight, so whatever the truth is, I'm all for acknowledging it. My opinion on the list has nothing to do with its credibility — a little bit of research, however, provides enough reason for me to think it's largely libelous gibberish written by a liar, but yeah, that's just my honest take on it. Yours apparently differs — at least a little.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyWed Jul 28, 2010 5:39 pm

You know full well that our opinions differ more than just a little Pete. Laughing The Beck list is a very accurate description about the Obama Czars. An in depth google search, on nearly all of the current Czars, reveals a tremendous amount of startling information. For example, Van Jones is in fact a Communist, but he got the boot after he was exposed by Glenn Beck. There's much, much, more too. I'll stop there for now. Very Happy Go ahead, someone try and prove me wrong.


http://www.commieblaster.com/socialist_czars/index.html

Anita Dunn looks to Mao for guidance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiBDpL2dExY

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=109486

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgmwyfKuL8

http://www.commieblaster.com/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2463696/posts


I have more, but I think I'll hold out and wait for Trooper to try and discredit these links first.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyThu Jul 29, 2010 3:11 am

BERG wrote:
You know full well that our opinions differ more than just a little Pete. Laughing The Beck list is a very accurate description about the Obama Czars. An in depth google search, on nearly all of the current Czars, reveals a tremendous amount of startling information. For example, Van Jones is in fact a Communist, but he got the boot after he was exposed by Glenn Beck. There's much, much, more too. I'll stop there for now. Very Happy Go ahead, someone try and prove me wrong.


http://www.commieblaster.com/socialist_czars/index.html

Anita Dunn looks to Mao for guidance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiBDpL2dExY

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=109486

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOgmwyfKuL8

http://www.commieblaster.com/

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2463696/posts


I have more, but I think I'll hold out and wait for Trooper to try and discredit these links first.


So now we're going to play a game where you begin a thread by knowingly posting lies, and then I have to disprove them?

I'll pass.

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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyThu Jul 29, 2010 1:22 pm

Honestly, you are a complete idiot Trooper. Why don't you show us specifially where I posted lies. If I'm wrong...no problem. Why is it that your mode of operation these days is simply to discredit without backing up your BS. Futhermore, what makes you think that your arrogance is so enlightening? You want to call me, and others, a douchebag, and a spazz, without offering any evidence as to why other than your own misguided liberal opinions. I might understand this if I had provoked you in some way, but I simply see you being a Dick for no real reason; furthermore, I don't think you can find any real evidence to refute the majority of what I have posted. Lets see what you have to offer up. If I'm wrong about any of it I'll be glad to admit my mistakes. So, please don't be such a milquetoast. Did you even look at any of the links in my prior post, or is the truth that painful?
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyThu Jul 29, 2010 3:26 pm

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Honestly, you are a complete idiot Trooper. Why don't you show us specifially where I posted lies. Because you posted seven links to the homepages of various websites. I don't have all day to go through and refute all the crap in many (not all) of the stories on all these websites. Here's the first one I saw, "DONALD BERWICK RADICAL COMMUNIST In Charge of Your Medical Care." That's a lie. Donald Berwick is niether a communist, nor in charge of my medical care. The next article lambasts Berwick for- get this- using employer funded health insurance. WTF? What do you want from the guy? He's a commy for talking about a single payer system and a jerk for buying his own insurance? Has he expressed a preference for a single payer health care system. Yes he has. So have I. Does that make him a communist? Does it make me a communist? Does it make the Brittish and Canadiens communists? If I'm wrong...no problem. Why is it that your mode of operation these days is simply to discredit without backing up your BS. Futhermore, what makes you think that your arrogance is so enlightening? You want to call me, and others, a douchebag, (I never called you a douchebag) and a spazz (I did call you that), without offering any evidence as to why other than your own misguided liberal opinions. I might understand this if I had provoked you in some way, but I simply see you being a Dick for no real reason; furthermore, I don't think you can find any real evidence to refute the majority of what I have posted. Lets see what you have to offer up. If I'm wrong about any of it I'll be glad to admit my mistakes. So, please don't be such a milquetoast. Did you even look at any of the links in my prior post, or is the truth that painful?
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyFri Jul 30, 2010 4:33 am

BERG wrote:
Again, you offer no evidence to support your misguided opinions. So, I will help you little buddy. You should do some research study before you make a post based on nothing more than your own opinion on the matter; otherwise, you simply look very silly. Rolling Eyes Glad I could be of assistance. Wink

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/sarah_palin_outs_darth_vader.html


Um, so I am supposed to do "research" to "prove" that Dr. Donald Berwick is not actually Darth Vader? That the
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I thought this was a forum to post our own opinions. I guess we are just supposed to post hyperlinks back and forth?
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyFri Jul 30, 2010 2:43 pm

Trooper wrote:
BERG wrote:
Again, you offer no evidence to support your misguided opinions. So, I will help you little buddy. You should do some research study before you make a post based on nothing more than your own opinion on the matter; otherwise, you simply look very silly. Rolling Eyes Glad I could be of assistance. Wink

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/07/sarah_palin_outs_darth_vader.html


Um, so I am supposed to do "research" to "prove" that Dr. Donald Berwick is not actually Darth Vader? That the
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coming of Harvard's Berwick represents the same thing to the average American that the arrival of the Death Star, the spaceship used to destroy planets, meant for entire populations.
I thought this was a forum to post our own opinions. I guess we are just supposed to post hyperlinks back and forth?

Weak man, very weak. Rolling Eyes Hyperlinks can be very informative, and I generally post them to support my opinions. In fact, I doubt that you read many of the links that I post, because the truth is quite painful for you isn't it? Go ahead and read a few of them Trooper. You might cry at first, but it does get easier to accept the truth as time goes by. In my opinion, your opinions are very misguided. Furthermore, from what I've seen, you seek to discredit nearly all hyperlinks that do not support your socialist view of America. In fact, you are like most liberals in that regard, as it would appear that you seek to excuse the truth as mere fiction. Okay, whatever makes you happy.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama Czars   Obama Czars EmptyFri Jul 30, 2010 5:08 pm

What are the political leanings of Google? Just asking.
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