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PostSubject: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 2:10 pm

Here is what Sarah Palin wrote on her Facebook page

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The media, as usual, seems to be reporting only one side of the Israeli Flotilla incident. Don’t trust the mainstream media to give you both sides of a story fairly… you must seek out fair reporting to ensure you have all the information.

As far too many in the media, and in various governments, rush to condemn Israel, we must put the recent events off Israel’s coast into the right perspective. This “relief” convoy was not about humanitarian aid, as the liberal mainstream media keeps reporting. The whole operation was designed to provoke Israel, not to provide supplies to Palestinians held hostage by Hamas terrorists in Gaza. Anyone who sees the video of Israeli commandos being attacked as they land on that ship knows the people aboard were vicious thugs, not “peace activists.” The media insults our intelligence with their outright mischaracterization of who these enemies are.

Israel delivers thousands of tons of humanitarian supplies every week to Gaza. These ships could have offloaded their cargoes at a nearby Israeli port if they really wanted to help the people of Gaza. Instead, they chose to incite confrontation and violence. Israel has a right to prevent arms shipments to Gaza that will be used to target innocent Israelis, so they were legitimately checking the cargo on the flotilla. Turkey has chosen to condemn Israel but we should be asking some serious questions about Turkey’s role in this whole affair. Why is a fellow member of NATO sponsoring such a dangerous publicity stunt? As one expert points out: “Three ships of that six-ship pro-terror convoy flew Turkish flags and were crowded with Turkish citizens. The Ankara government – led by Islamists these days – sponsored the ‘aid’ operation in a move to position itself as the new champion of the Palestinians. And Turkish decision-makers knew Israel would have to react – and were waiting to exploit the inevitable clash. The provocation was as cynical as it was carefully orchestrated.”

We can only hope the Obama Administration does not join the anti-Israel chorus in the aftermath of this staged confrontation. Please, Mr. President, we need to let Israelis know we stand with them in their fight against terrorists and those who arm and support them. America and her ally, Israel, stand by waiting for your response.

- Sarah Palin
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 2:18 pm

I would have to agree with Sarah on this.
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 2:24 pm

proutdoors wrote:
I would have to agree with Sarah on this.

I'll +1 that too. I saw the video from the raid. Israel is in a constant state of war and in so can enforce an embargo. These protesters were looking for trouble. They found it. Plus it's not just an Israeli embargo it's an Israeli/Egypt embargo. The Egyptians see Hamas as an extension of the Muslim brotherhood. Where's the coverage that this is a joint embargo?
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 5:09 pm

I like how Israel always takes care of business. They don't tolerant a lot of crap. They would have already nuked Iran if we supported them.

I also laugh when the media said....."and they used real bullets." lol! lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 8:54 am

This event is end of times huge........ Israel has every right to defend themselves but this time they killed turks.... Turkey is one of the few Muslim nations that Israel has had semi cordial relations with... It will be interesting to watch this one unfold....
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 4:20 pm

Forgive the ignorance for a minute if you will, but maybe someone can explain this to me, but why is it that every time there is a skirmish between Jews and Muslims, or Israel and Palestine, that America is so quick to back the Jews/Israel? I know they are an ally, and Palestine has been a PITA in the past, and I also know a lot of our current problems today stem from Muslim nations, but why are we so quick to believe one side and not the other? Are they really that innocent, or are we just that good of allies to overlook the faults?
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 4:47 pm

In this instance Israel is without fault. The Israelis have every right to protect their nation just like we do. In fact, the Israelis offered to offload the Turkish cargo and pass on the humanitarian supplies. The Turks' refused the offer. Is it really any surprise that Muslims are the aggressor? Israel simply can't take any chances when it comes to Hamas getting new shipments of rockets. The entire event seems to have been planned as a diversion for other ships to make port. I should also mention that Israel is not the nation who has issued an extermination order against their neighbors.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100602/ap_on_re_eu/eu_turkey_israel

There's much more information available about this subject. In my opinion, the MSM often leaves out details supporting Israel's position. I think Sarah Palin nailed this topic in the first post of the thread.


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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 4:55 pm

Ask yourself this.... How many times have the Jews blown up our embassys...How many of our ships have the Jews floated a bomb into....and how many Jews have flown 737's full of fuel into our buildings............... Question Question Question Question Question
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 5:02 pm

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Ask yourself this.... How many times have the Jews blown up our embassys...How many of our ships have the Jews floated a bomb into....and how many Jews have flown 737's full of fuel into our buildings............... Question Question Question Question Question

You ABSOLUTELY make a great point. But does it necessarily mean that Israel's hands are clean of any wrong-doing EVER? Just a thought I had, and in no way am I trying to sympathize with Turkey, Hamas, Palestine, or Muslims.
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 9:40 pm

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plottrunner wrote:
Ask yourself this.... How many times have the Jews blown up our embassys...How many of our ships have the Jews floated a bomb into....and how many Jews have flown 737's full of fuel into our buildings............... Question Question Question Question Question

You ABSOLUTELY make a great point. But does it necessarily mean that Israel's hands are clean of any wrong-doing EVER? Just a thought I had, and in no way am I trying to sympathize with Turkey, Hamas, Palestine, or Muslims.

It doesn't mean that at all. But in who's charter/constitution does it call for the annihilation for the other? It's not Israel, it's Hamas. Can you imagine the crap storm that would happen if the Jews called for the extinction of the Palestinians Question Question If the Muslim nations in the Middle East had their way there would be another holocaust and the Jews would cease to exist. They are surrounded by enemies who the first chance they get will annihilate the state. They are in a constant state of war, and at times may over react, but when everyone in and around you wants you dead and gone they can't be like Obama and cave into the enemies demands.
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyWed Jun 02, 2010 10:42 pm

If the Muslims put down their weapons there would be peace, if the Jews put down their weapons there will be no more Jews.
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 4:54 pm

Whoever said good fences make good neighbors obviously didn't live next to Hezbollah.
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 6:20 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100603/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_israel_palestinians

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Obama is no friend of Israel. The Obama administration says "there is unbreakable bond" yet says Israel needs to show its commitment to peace. Over the past year Israle has imposed a 10 month settlement freeze, removed road blocks, checkpoints, which has already led to the stabbing of Israeli citizens and 3 military personnel, and the removal of military presence in 3 key west bank towns. How one can simply ignore these acts is beyond me. What has the Palestinians authority done to show its commitment to peace? The US gets SO much from Israel, What the US gets from Israel is: defense technology and weapon technologies, the most advanced solar energy technology in the world, an Israeli company recently installed this new technology in the Mojave Desert, 1 in every 15 prescriptions in the US is Israeli made medicine, and not just for the US but for the world, Israel has invented junk drives, (DiskOnKey) is the Israeli name, digital voice logging technology, a camera the size of a pill which helps diagnose disease, ex libris is an library monitoring and logging system, which most of Europe uses, cameras in phones where first developed in Israel, Israeli companies pioneered SMS text messages, the original instant messenger was developed in Israel,and there is tons more done in terms of humanitarian efforts. Sticking to political agenda though, Obama has ignored everything and rather speaks from a political agenda than a historical, factual perspective. I want peace, i would love to see the day where the two parties live side by side in peace, however, what Obama is doing, making one side a proxy of the US, ignoring transparencies, and is being all around naive in terms of historical prevalence, will never lead to peace, but rather more conflict. Obama needs to learn that his agenda is not always right and sometimes, its right to admit when you have done something wrong. Plato said, Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. It is time to act in a responsible way, not in a manic way that reuslt in not peace, but more conflict.
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PostSubject: Re: Israel's defense   Israel's defense EmptyThu Jun 03, 2010 11:27 pm

hyperduc wrote:
Whoever said good fences make good neighbors obviously didn't live next to Hezbollah.

I don't care who you are, that was funny!!

lol! lol! lol!
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