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PostSubject: Libya   Libya EmptySun Mar 20, 2011 10:59 am

Why does the U.S. feel compelled to jump into the middle of other country's internal conflicts when those conflicts don't directly threaten security of the U.S.?

I remember back when I was a kid, and whenever a fight broke out, there were always two or three guys who, no matter what, would instantly charge into the fight whether or not it had anything to do with them.
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptySun Mar 20, 2011 11:20 am

it has apparently confused the rest of the world as well
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/03/16/european_governments_completely_puzzled_about_us_position_on_libya

"And Clinton's former top aide Anne-Marie Slaughter accused the Obama administration of prioritizing oil over the human rights of the people of Libya.
"U.S. is defining ‘vital strategic interest' in terms of oil and geography, not universal values. Wrong call that will come back to haunt us," she wrote on Wednesday on her Twitter page."

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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptySun Mar 20, 2011 1:36 pm

Time to leave all 3 middle-east conflicts.
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptySun Mar 20, 2011 5:45 pm

Pete wrote:
Why does the U.S. feel compelled to jump into the middle of other country's internal conflicts when those conflicts don't directly threaten security of the U.S.?

I've been asking that to myself all weekend....... This is all so puzzling, as Ghadafi had apparently agreed to back off, as of Friday.

BTW, Where you been Petey?
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyMon Mar 21, 2011 1:34 am

The US government can't keep their hands off of anything whether it be our money or a conflict in the middle east that has no bearing whatsoever for the US. We need to stop coming to everybodys aid and try and get ourselves figured out before we help others.
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyTue Mar 22, 2011 7:44 am

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The US government can't keep their hands off of anything whether it be our money or a conflict in the middle east that has no bearing whatsoever for the US. We need to stop coming to everybodys aid and try and get ourselves figured out before we help others.
I would agree with that statement IF it said "The Administration currently running the US government. . . "
And I would not limit that statement to one party or the other. Both have led us astray in recent history. But "The Government" is not the villian; it's the people running it.
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyTue Mar 22, 2011 10:39 am

Wow look at all the healines

Kucinich wants Libya defunded
NATO squabbles to take responsibility
China and Russia call for a cease fire
Gaddafi can afford mercenaries for years

All at drudge

Interesting when the US is not a leader no one wants to be a leader or is incapable to be a leader. I don't agree with being the worlds police force but we are the only ones capable to even do it. We ought to start charging for our services!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyTue Mar 22, 2011 1:49 pm

dubob wrote:
But "The Government" is not the villian; it's the people running it.[/size][/color][/font]
I can agree with that statement. I don't care which party is in office just as long as they do what is best for this country and its citizens, but currently that is not the case.
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyTue Mar 22, 2011 5:22 pm

Yonni wrote:
Wow look at all the healines

Kucinich wants Libya defunded
NATO squabbles to take responsibility
China and Russia call for a cease fire
Gaddafi can afford mercenaries for years

All at drudge

You know, the more I think about this, them more I feel like something is not right with our involvement in Libya. I smell somethin fishy.....
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyWed Mar 30, 2011 7:26 am

So....... apparently the reason we are involved in Libya is for humanitarian reasons. To prevent genocide I guess.....

What doesn't add up is our COMPLETE LACK of involvement in Darfur, in Sudan, and Rwanda, where human attrocities are taking place now.
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyWed Mar 30, 2011 9:55 am

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What doesn't add up is our COMPLETE LACK of involvement in Darfur, in Sudan, and Rwanda, where human attrocities are taking place now.
Of course it adds up Will. There is absolutely no political payback for the Obama cartel associated with involvement in Darfur, Sudan, or Rwanda. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyThu Mar 31, 2011 1:03 pm

I was listening to a guy talk on the radio yesterday and he said some interesting stuff. I am paraphrasing to the best of my memory, but he basically said Obama is puffing his chest because all of the other countries and NATO are volunteering the US to basically be the bad guy and Obama acts as if this is a compliment, but in reality we are just doing their dirty work. I guess the group of middle east countries (can't remember their name) wants Gadhafi out of power, but they aren't willing to do it themselves, they volunteered the US. Why isn't the arab nations sending over their planes? Why do we feel the need to be involved? Lets be clear, it is not humanitarian as shotgunwill pointed out, I don't know what it is for sure, but I would assume oil, which was a big reason for the wars in Iraq. I just find it ironic that Obama got into office by campaigning against the current wars, insinuating the republicans were forcing oil prices up, ect. Now he is doing all of the same stuff he was running against, but it is alright for him. Sorry I will get off my soap box and sorry about my rambling.
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyThu Mar 31, 2011 2:00 pm

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I was listening to a guy talk on the radio yesterday and he said some interesting stuff. Who?

Why isn't the arab nations sending over their planes? Lol, what planes? They have camels Jahan!!

Why do we feel the need to be involved? Lets be clear, it is not humanitarian as shotgunwill pointed out, I don't know what it is for sure, but I would assume oil, which was a big reason for the wars in Iraq. I think anyone that buys the "humanitarian" BS might not have two brain cells to rub together.....

I just find it ironic that Obama got into office by campaigning against the current wars, insinuating the republicans were forcing oil prices up, etc. Yeah, and now the Obamanator is CIC of three wars..... AND when he took office the national average for gas was a 1.79!! Can you believe that shit!! SEE LINK BELOW.

Now he is doing all of the same stuff he was running against, but it is alright for him. Sorry I will get off my soap box and sorry about my rambling. Never apologize for pointing out the obvious my friend.

Gas prices citation: http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2011/mar/30/gas-prices-double-under-obama/?sms_ss=facebook&at_xt=4d9426561ddb55a1,0
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyThu Mar 31, 2011 7:32 pm

Just caught this on Reason.

http://reason.com/blog/2011/03/29/reasontv-obamas-war-that-isnt

Here's my favorite paragraph;

"Yet even Bush pushed to get a fig leaf of authorization from Congress before the shooting began. Obama's Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, instead brandished unanimity among NATO leaders as proof we were doing the right thing: "All 28 allies have...now authorized military authorities to develop an operations plan for NATO to take on the broader civilian protection mission under Resolution 1973." As if NATO, a Cold War alliance conceived to protect the free nations of Europe from a threat that went missing 20 years ago, is a substitute for, say, the American people and their elected representatives."
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PostSubject: Re: Libya   Libya EmptyThu Mar 31, 2011 8:09 pm

fatbass wrote:
Time to leave all 3 middle-east conflicts.
A-FREAKING-MEN!
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