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Yonni Admin
Posts : 821 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 45 Location : Salt Lake City
| Subject: Huntsman Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:37 am | |
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BERG Community Organizer
Posts : 451 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:19 pm | |
| Huntsman is an EXTREME liberal milquetoast . He's not fooling any true conservatives, The Bishop, Stake President, or The Prophet.
I'm liking the Romney/Nugent ticket myself. | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:39 pm | |
| Romney is no better than Huntsman! WTH are you smoking, Berg?!
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BERG Community Organizer
Posts : 451 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:01 am | |
| LOL Pro. You caught me trying to bait in some unsuspecting moderates and hard left leaning weinergaters'. Then, I was gonna smack em down with facts and 177 google links. But Nooooooo, you had to go and spoil if for me dint you? How about a Palin/Nugent ticket?
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:15 am | |
| Sorry! I prefer a Ron Paul/Herman Cain ticket! | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 58 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:55 pm | |
| PALIN / NUGENT???? Damn PRO Berg is hitting the Crack Pipe!!!!
A draft dodger and an bimbo. Sounds like a winning ticket to me.
How'd the extremist tea bag candidate do up there in New York last month???
Huntsman ain't pandering to any of your numbskull extremeist groups. Probably why he is about 16 years away from actually getting the nomination. God forbid that ANY POLITICIAN from either side actually reach across the aisle and freaking get something done. | |
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Yonni Admin
Posts : 821 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 45 Location : Salt Lake City
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:15 pm | |
| - voiceofreason wrote:
Huntsman ain't pandering to any of your numbskull extremeist groups. Probably why he is about 16 years away from actually getting the nomination. God forbid that ANY POLITICIAN from either side actually reach across the aisle and freaking get something done. He should not be in politics, especially national politics, the man can't even define his own personal beliefs, why would I want him to represent me! | |
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BERG Community Organizer
Posts : 451 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 4:38 pm | |
| The only numbskull around these parts is VOR. http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110513/pl_dailycaller/teapartycandidateinnyspecialelectionpaysdemocraticconsultingfirmtoconductsurvey_1I would take Palin/Nugent any day of the week over the current Marxist Regime. Nevertheless, they certainly wouldn't be my first choice. There's no reaching across the aisle any more VOR. You simply can't negotiate with people who don't believe in the rule of law or the Constitution (like: Pelosi, Reid, Chuck U. Shomire, etc...). You are either a Freedom loving patriot or you are The Enemy Within. Thank God we have a few new Reps. in The House who understand this concept. I'm not a Republican, but It's rather easy to see that the GOP is the lesser of two evils. Right now, we need to keep replacing RINOs with real Conservatives. The Tea Party has been a blessing in this process...anyone who thinks otherwise is entirely ignorant to the facts. Moreover, if we don't all become more active in the political process, then a catastrophic loss of Freedom is inevitable. An additional 4 years of Hugobamachez would nearly complete the destruction of our Republic. So, who doesn’t agree? | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 58 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:03 pm | |
| BERGY the Tea Party is the best thing to happen to the "Left / Moderate" movement in recent history. What you have just described is nothing short of the Taliban.
Americans don't want extremists they want results. Offer up a candidate that ain't a circus sideshow that also doesn't cater to the "Talibaggers" and the "R's" will probably get my vote back | |
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BERG Community Organizer
Posts : 451 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 6:28 pm | |
| - voiceofreason wrote:
- BERGY the Tea Party is the best thing to happen to the "Left / Moderate" movement in
recent history. What you have just described is nothing short of the Taliban.
Americans don't want extremists they want results. Offer up a candidate that ain't a circus sideshow that also doesn't cater to the "Talibaggers" and the "R's" will probably get my vote back Please keep your vote lil VOR (Voice of the Unreasonable). Due to your complete ignorance regarding The Tea Party, we simply don't want your gall durned vote polluting the ballot computer. You stay away from the ballot computer, because it might get some kind of nasty progressive virus from your touch. Hell, you may just as well vote a straight Demoncrat ticket. Although, please keep posting up. You are rapidly becoming the new poster BOY of The Ill-informed Apathetic American Organization for The Criminally Insane Moderate Community (TIAAOTCIMC). Just for fun, and in light of your all-knowing grandiose narcissist brain dribble, please do tell what aspect of The Tea Party is "extreme". | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 58 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:53 pm | |
| Ask Bob Bennett which side of the Taliban party is extreme.
Lemme ask you this, what part of the Ryan budget do you think will come to compromise?? Medicare?? No Compromise Period???
What will happen to the Republicans that do the right thing and try to come to a solution?? Again I'd have you ask Mr. Bennett. If they hold Talibagger line and insist on the complete destruction of Medicare and Social Security you'll see exactly what you saw in New York. Spin it however ya want the sumbitch ain't headed to Washington.
It's unfortunate that the Talibaggers want to keep wrapping themselves up in the same old jingoistic unrealistic bumpersticker slogans that many of the less intelligent slurp up with great delight.
Now to ask a serious question here.... The Talibaggers were claiming great victory in 2010... They got those damn Libs on the run. 18 months and we are still in the same shit as we were before they rushed in to save America from the Socialist that was running this great Country in to the dirt, where are the miracles??? Where are the jobs???
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:50 pm | |
| Bennett was FIRED because he cared more about special interests than he did for the Constitution! His brother in CRIME will be fired next year as well! And guess what, his replacement will NOT be a democrat! Take that to the bank!
As for the budget. Give me ONE name of a democrat that is serious about reducing spending, and I mean cuts that amount to more than dipping a spoon into the ocean? You actually think the budget will get reduced by any measurable means by raising taxes on the 'wealthy'? If so, you are truly NOT the voice of reason. Social security is messed up, but the one entitlement program that will bring this nation to her knees is Medicare! Do a little research on how many baby-boomers there are and how many of them will be going on the government teat in the next ten years! You expect the republicans to 'reach across the aisle' for a solution. I ask what compromise, and I mean of real substance, have the democrats offered on cuts? A plan that only addresses revenue, as flawed and FOOLISH as raising taxes during a depression is, is NOT a solution! | |
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shotgunwill Activist
Posts : 845 Join date : 2010-05-30 Age : 42 Location : West Ashley, SC
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 6:20 am | |
| Shotgunwill wrote: VOR, I'm curious if you have actually read Senator Ryan's proposal. VOR wrote: As a Branded Lib by ya'll, you know I haven't read any of it. I've heard enough about it to know it is nothing more than unrealistic tea bag posturing and upward wealth re distribution. Nothing more than a supply side trickle down ponzi scheme. http://www.politicalnecrosis.com/t640-the-road-to-prosperity-explainedIf this is still the case, then VOR is doing nothing more than parroting talking points someone spoon fed him about Ryan's budget. | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:08 am | |
| As if that should surprise anyone................. | |
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BERG Community Organizer
Posts : 451 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:44 am | |
| VOR The Silly Media Parrot. I wonder if Bob is his rich uncle. | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 58 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 1:41 pm | |
| OH GOSH!!! You guys got me with the parrot line DARN YOU!!!
So since Slick Willy had a balanced budget we've gone exactly away from what got us there. Now we haven't learned anything in 20 something years so lets just keep doing more of the same cause the last 20 years of trickle down has worked like a F-ing Champ right???
Lets cut taxes on the wealthy from 15% down to 5%, Lets keep the Corporations hoarding cash and not hiring, Lets keep letting the robber baron predatory lenders foreclose on homes and lets make sure that people that have been paying in to the system that keeps the MAJORITY of them alive goes away.
Sounds like a great F-ing idea right???
Good luck on stumping with that train of thought | |
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BERG Community Organizer
Posts : 451 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:53 pm | |
| Stop while you're ahead VOR. That last post is conclusive evidence that you are sorely inflicted with Media Parrotitis. Plus, you sure did make a number of ASSumptions. Just WTH makes you think that any of us are for the status quo in Washington? Moreover, your conclusions are flawed. Be honest, did you just reach up and pull that information right out of your hind quarter? | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 4:40 pm | |
| - voiceofreason wrote:
- OH GOSH!!! You guys got me with the parrot line DARN YOU!!!
So since Slick Willy had a balanced budget we've gone exactly away from what got us there. Now we haven't learned anything in 20 something years so lets just keep doing more of the same cause the last 20 years of trickle down has worked like a F-ing Champ right??? Nice spin, but don't let reality get in the way of a cute little fairy tale, eh? Clinton NEVER had a balanced budget other than on paper thanks to fancy accounting.
Lets cut taxes on the wealthy from 15% down to 5%, Lets keep the Corporations hoarding cash and not hiring, Lets keep letting the robber baron predatory lenders foreclose on homes and lets make sure that people that have been paying in to the system that keeps the MAJORITY of them alive goes away. Where do you come up with your tax rates? No wonder you are so confused. Why are corporations not hiring? Is it because of 'greed'? If so, please explain how NOT expanding is 'greedy'? If businesses are motivated by profits, how do you explain their unwillingness to increase profits? Are you that economically illiterate? The banks foreclosing on homeowners who are NOT paying their loans, tell me why/how they offered the loans in the first place? Have you heard of the CRA (community reinvestment act)? If not, educate yourself on it and when it was mandated by the POTUS and who that POTUS was, then get back with me. Have you wondered why interest rates have been so low for so long? If not, why not?
Sounds like a great F-ing idea right???
Good luck on stumping with that train of thought | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 58 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 7:50 pm | |
| PRO are you going to tell me that you think any Corporation or top 1% is paying 35%??? Are ya self smarted???
We've got low EFFECTIVE TAX RATES for Corps and top 1% to spur growth and allow for your FANTASY TRICKLE DOWN to kick in??? Where the hell is it??? Do we need to really give more capital back to those that have no intention on doing anything other than sitting on it....
You are so F-ing against being TAXED, MANDATED, or whatever verbiage you care to use to spin away, to provide for a fellow human being but you are more than happy to support giving it to those that need it the least...
If they are so inventive and so hard working have them pay the EXACT PERCENTAGE of their earnings that I pay and you pay.
You think the crack whore that is collecting a welfare check is worthless and deserves nothing but a kick in the ass and to be showed where her boot straps are. I tend to side with you here. BUT, and It's a big {no f-bombs} BUT, you are more than happy to kiss the ass of the CEO that pays his employees below value in this market while hoarding cash and bitching because he has to pay 15% on his compensation.
They are both sycophants..... Bottom line is that you and I both work to support them. And right now the crack whore has just as much chance of hiring you as the CEO.
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Yonni Admin
Posts : 821 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 45 Location : Salt Lake City
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:17 pm | |
| Take a deep breath VOR! Did you forget your meds today? Let's get back to Huntsman, you never did reply to him being endorsed by Howard Dean! | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 8:29 pm | |
| Yes, I am self-smart, which is light years ahead of the education you received! You are wrong on my view of taxes, I am all for taxes, but I am NOT for progressive taxes that are meant to punish those who create/produce, and give leeway to those of mostly consume and those who are connected enough to have written in loopholes. I am for a consumption tax, where you are taxed on what you spend, NOT on what you produce! No loopholes, no write-offs, no kick backs, no subsidies. Don't give them anything, because in order for the government to give it must first take from others. You want businesses to spend their capital? Get the government out of the way and watch the economy take off!
You can't, without tyranny, force people to spend their earnings. You want businesses to expand....get rid of the uncertainty caused by the GOVERNMENT. Central planning does NOT work, and the last 100 years has proven this, yet you want MORE centralized planning. Talk about self smart folk.....
You make a lot of ASSUmptions about my view on the crack whore and the CEO. I am NOT against welfare, when it used as a SHORT TERM safety net, but not when it is used as a career like happens far too often in today's world. We have career welfare recipients, and that seems to be okay with you. I say cut the welfare off for the crack head after 30-60 days, and completely from the CEO!
EVERY recession/depression is caused by the GOVERNMENT. The current one was brought about by policies enacted by your buddy Clinton and given kerosene by Bush. From the CRA, to the wars on 'terror'/drugs/poverty, to the massive spending policies of EVERY president since Coolidge. The irony, and intended irony, of the creation of the Federal Reserve was supposedly to prevent massive bubble/burst cycles, but since its creation the bubbles/bursts have been bigger and more severe. Inflation was virtually ZERO for the first 100+ years of this nation, and has been 90+% since the Federal Reserve crawled out of the cesspool. You focus on the private sector, when it can only do what the government allows it to do. If you are truly against CEO's getting fat off the worker, you should be calling for the REMOVAL of 99-99% of federal government regulations! Regulations are merelytaxes on the less connected and the consumer. | |
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BERG Community Organizer
Posts : 451 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:11 pm | |
| Great post pro! Yu dun got sum good self smarted stuff in yur hillbilly brain. I told him to stop while he was ahead, but parrotitis is a severe and extraordinary chronic malady. | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 58 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Thu Jun 09, 2011 1:50 pm | |
| So we essentially declare Corporate Anarchy??? Step out of the way and sell, sell, sell??? For Pollyanna this would be ideal. For Enron, Lehman, Countrywide Bernie Madhoff and B.P. this would be lambs to the slaughter. Thats why you are one of my favorite people on the planet. You are every bit as stubborn as I am. Unfortunately as you admit you are self smarted. Yonni, No meds for me. If I was Huntsman I'd embrace any endorsement that came my way. Especially coming from the other side of the aisle. Berg STFU!!!! | |
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BERG Community Organizer
Posts : 451 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 49
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:30 pm | |
| Make me. | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: Huntsman Thu Jun 09, 2011 4:28 pm | |
| - voiceofreason wrote:
- So we essentially declare Corporate Anarchy???
Step out of the way and sell, sell, sell???
For Pollyanna this would be ideal. For Enron, Lehman, Countrywide Bernie Madhoff and B.P. this would be lambs to the slaughter.
Thats why you are one of my favorite people on the planet. You are every bit as stubborn as I am. Unfortunately as you admit you are self smarted. Not only are you stubborn, but your thick skull apparently blocks reasoning from entering/leaving! ALL of the above mentioned corporations are propped up by the government, that is why they cause so much havoc! Take away the government enforced protection by these corporations and they will go the way of the dino. That way the ONLY way a company would be able to sell ANYTHING is if they offered up a quality service/product at an acceptable rate. Otherwise they will be out of business in short order! Why this 1st grade level economic FACT escapes you is mind-boggling! | |
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