Cain = FAIL

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/david/herman-cain-communities-should-be-able-ban-m


So much for Freedom of Religion and Libertarian ideals!!!

Can't wait until they build a minaret in your backyard. Maybe you could provide the lemonade for their Sharia implementation or Jihad training meetings...maybe even help them with their female genitalia mutilation parties.

At least Cain understands what Sharia is and threat it does pose to our way of life.

So you'd be just fine not allowing an LDS Temple in your community
because they all have 10 wives??? Or a Baptist Church or a Catholic Church because the play Bingo which leads to illegal gambling???

So which is it Somalians ( Libertarians) Government intrusion when it fits your agenda and only then??? Are ya going to interpret the Constitution any other way than to provide for Freedom Of Religion weather you approve or not???

voiceofreason wrote:

So you'd be just fine not allowing an LDS Temple in your community
because they all have 10 wives??? Or a Baptist Church or a Catholic Church because the play Bingo which leads to illegal gambling???

So which is it Somalians ( Libertarians) Government intrusion when it fits your agenda and only then??? Are ya going to interpret the Constitution any other way than to provide for Freedom Of Religion weather you approve or not???

Mormons don't have 10 wives. Bingo hurts nobody. Libertarians believe people have the right to do WHATEVER they want until it infringes upon another's liberties.
Sharia Law, Jihad and female genital mutilation, not to mention prayers blaring from a minaret, ALL infringe upon other's liberties.

You're making this way too easy, voiceoftreason.

Don't forget honor killings.....

Look I know Mormons don't practice polygamy as well as you do. I was proving a point that there are a ton of "Old Wivestales" concerning many religions. You don't know for certain that this Muslim Community is performing female circumcisions. What about the FLDS where they do practice polygamy??? Or the Jewish faith where depending on how ya look at it circumcision is pretty much a given??

Are we going to tell them that our interpratation of the Constitution allows
us to block their right to worship as they see fit?? Santeria??

Again I see no difference between this and the garment burners that
protest at LDS Conference.

VOT = "Voice of Treason" ~ fatbass



"Again I see no difference between this and the garment burners that
protest at LDS Conference." ~ VOT

Then, clearly, you can't see.

voiceofreason wrote:

Are we going to tell them that our interpratation of the Constitution allows
us to block their right to worship as they see fit?? Santeria??

I'm not suggesting that at all. I have a problem with true Islam. True Islam practices Sharia Law. Sharia law is against they way we live and govern. It is against many principles of freedom that we enjoy. To say that Islam will stop at minarets and mosques is naive, because true Islam isn't satisfied until everyone is converted, by force if necessary.

Again I see no difference between this and the garment burners that
protest at LDS Conference.

I do. I may not agree with is being done, but they aren't hurting anybody, they aren't taking anyone's liberties away either. You show a picture, just a picture is enough, but for the sake of argument, of Mohammed being pissed on, and Islam dictates that you be killed. Is there any other religion out there that dictates that? NO.

I believe that is what Herman Cain is trying to get at. It's a shame the media can't handle the truth about Islam, and it's an even greater shame that we as Americans are lead to believe that we have to tip toe around Islam. I am happy that someone has enough balls to say something like that, but VOR is right, it will be a nail in his coffin for reasons I have enumerated.

And for your own amusement VOR, check out:

http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/

AND

http://barenakedislam.wordpress.com/

Those two websites are far out there like Crooks and Liars, so they should be right up your alley buddy!

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Look Willy I respect your opinion and point of view... Unlike Berg you can string more than one sentence together without stepping on your cock.

Here is the deal. By doing this to law abiding, peaceful worshiping Muslims you are opening the door for persecution of ALL faiths. What makes a law abiding Muslim any worse than a law abiding Mormon or Christian?? They both obey the laws of the U.S. the state they are in and also the municipality.

Cutting off hands for theft is against the law in America WEATHER YOU ARE A MUSLIM OR NOT. Blowing up Federal Buildings is against the law in America
weather you are a Muslim or Mormon. Kidnapping Children and raping them for
10 months is illegal in America and always will be. Blowing up the Atlanta Olympics is even against the law for Christians in the Bible Belt.

There is one heck of a difference between law abiding people and criminals.


Like I said about the garment burners... They are convinced that my brothers and sisters of the LDS faith are every bit as bad as Muslims.

Prosecute those that break the law, leave in peace those that live in peace.

voiceofreason wrote:

Prosecute those that break the law, leave in peace those that live in peace.

Now now VOR that is libertarian thinking there

voiceofreason wrote:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Look Willy I respect your opinion and point of view... Unlike Berg you can string more than one sentence together without stepping on your cock.

Here is the deal. By doing this to law abiding, peaceful worshiping Muslims you are opening the door for persecution of ALL faiths. What makes a law abiding Muslim any worse than a law abiding Mormon or Christian?? They both obey the laws of the U.S. the state they are in and also the municipality.

Cutting off hands for theft is against the law in America WEATHER YOU ARE A MUSLIM OR NOT. Blowing up Federal Buildings is against the law in America
weather you are a Muslim or Mormon. Kidnapping Children and raping them for
10 months is illegal in America and always will be. Blowing up the Atlanta Olympics is even against the law for Christians in the Bible Belt.

There is one heck of a difference between law abiding people and criminals.


Like I said about the garment burners... They are convinced that my brothers and sisters of the LDS faith are every bit as bad as Muslims.

Prosecute those that break the law, leave in peace those that live in peace.

Where do you draw the line? Brian David Mitchell started his own church. You'd let him go to practice his religion? What about The Church of The Realized Fantasy?

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/15/nyregion/the-police-disconnect-1-800-want-pot.html

The line is drawn when a law is broken.

fatbass wrote:

Where do you draw the line? Brian David Mitchell started his own church. You'd let him go to practice his religion? What about The Church of The Realized Fantasy?

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/11/15/nyregion/the-police-disconnect-1-800-want-pot.html

Dammit, where's my phone!?!?