Tea Party Dictaors unhappiness

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/daily-show-dealageddon-heartbreaking-work

Explained perfectly the Dictatorship the Tea Liban is looking for

Sorry that we tend to want a future for our kids and grandkids.

She should probably ask every President not named Clinton
that same question. Especially Bush Jr. and the Gipper
that started this fiasco.

I noticed you changed your signature, but I have a question for you.

"As another CBPP analysis forecast, over the next 10 years, the Bush tax cuts if made permanent will contribute more to the U.S. budget deficit than the Obama stimulus, the TARP program, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and revenue lost to the recession put together."

Since when have tax cuts EVER contributed to the deficit? A deficit can only occur when a government has over spent its revenues.....

Great question Willy. I have one as well. When has a
tax cut EVER shrunk a deficit??

Now to answer your question. look what the Gipper
did to the deficit when he hit town. Exploded that bitch.
Look what Slick Willy did when he raised taxes. Shrunk
that bitch. From that point on it was all down hill. The
Talibaggers are correct in that both parties since have
pushed us deeper. Either through Corp. welfare, entitlements
or tax cuts.

Tea Baggers are proud to just say no to anything that
is not lock step with their Shite beliefs. That ain't compromise
that ain't finding solutions. That my friend is DICTATING
a course and one course only to he'll with any other point
of view or opinion. Not to go Glenn Beck here, but what
is next?? Teabag youth?? Liberal / Moderate conservation
camps??

voiceofreason wrote:

Great question Willy. I have one as well. When has a
tax cut EVER shrunk a deficit??

Now to answer your question. look what the Gipper
did to the deficit when he hit town. Exploded that bitch.
Look what Slick Willy did when he raised taxes. Shrunk
that bitch. From that point on it was all down hill. The
Talibaggers are correct in that both parties since have
pushed us deeper. Either through Corp. welfare, entitlements
or tax cuts.

Tea Baggers are proud to just say no to anything that
is not lock step with their Shite beliefs. That ain't compromise
that ain't finding solutions. That my friend is DICTATING
a course and one course only to he'll with any other point
of view or opinion. Not to go Glenn Beck here, but what
is next?? Teabag youth?? Liberal / Moderate conservation
camps??

We could let The Constitution dictate for a change instead of your self-serving socialist demagogues.

voiceofreason wrote:

She should probably ask every President not named Clinton
that same question. Especially Bush Jr. and the Gipper
that started this fiasco.

Tax cuts only work when regulation on industry is pulled back. When the free market is allowed to blossom unregulated, more economic activity brings in more actual revenue to government due to the sheer volume of wealth.
No doubt this country ran deficits in the past and we were able to overcome those through robust economies but we also did not have the current level of government control and hindrance that throttles growth!
The current administration and it policies are simply choking the last breaths out of AMERICAN industry through overregulation and overtaxation. This anti-business attitude is what will keep our economy from being able to pay back the gargantuan debt that this Bush/Obama tag team of fail has put us in.

BTW...were it not for the Contract With America and a republican congress, Clinton would have done the same thing as BHO and run up horrendous bills. Bush even held the line fiscally until he got a repub congress and that turned Washington into a bunch of drunken sailors with our money.
Both parties are rotten to the core but for different reasons. Repubs want to continue to reward the most productive of society while the dems want to shower the worthless with money in hopes of buying votes.

"Tax cuts only work when regulation on industry is pulled back. When the free market is allowed to blossom unregulated, more economic activity brings in more actual revenue to government due to the sheer volume of wealth.
No doubt this country ran deficits in the past and we were able to overcome those through robust economies but we also did not have the current level of government control and hindrance that throttles growth!
The current administration and it policies are simply choking the last breaths out of AMERICAN industry through overregulation and overtaxation. This anti-business attitude is what will keep our economy from being able to pay back the gargantuan debt that this Bush/Obama tag team of fail has put us in."
A.Y.S.M?????

I can't believe that this line of absolute B.S. is still repeated!!!!
Look at EVERY President that championed this line of thought and what it did.
EVERY TIME it leads to a BURST BUBBLE Scenario EVERY TIME!!! NOT JUST ONCE EVERY TIME!!!

It's a fantasy.

Tell me when in the last 50 years Taxes on the JOB CREATORS have been LOWER than right now?!?!

Tell me when the last time SUBSIDIES and CORP WELFARE through TAX CUTS
were LOWER than right now?!?!

If you don't incent re-investment through regulations, penalties or just flat out taxes or whatever you want to call it the money will NEVER move from where it currently sits.

Why the hell should the Job creators actually create??? They have more PROFITS now than any time in recent history. They ain't paying squat to let the cash sit and build and yet you want to give them more while the rest of us middle classers SUBSIDIZE them through LOWER WAGES, HIGHER PRICES
and INCREASED TAX BURDENS to pay for their uses of what every American enjoys.

voiceofreason wrote:

"Tax cuts only work when regulation on industry is pulled back. When the free market is allowed to blossom unregulated, more economic activity brings in more actual revenue to government due to the sheer volume of wealth.
No doubt this country ran deficits in the past and we were able to overcome those through robust economies but we also did not have the current level of government control and hindrance that throttles growth!
The current administration and it policies are simply choking the last breaths out of AMERICAN industry through overregulation and overtaxation. This anti-business attitude is what will keep our economy from being able to pay back the gargantuan debt that this Bush/Obama tag team of fail has put us in."
A.Y.S.M?????

I can't believe that this line of absolute B.S. is still repeated!!!!
Look at EVERY President that championed this line of thought and what it did.
EVERY TIME it leads to a BURST BUBBLE Scenario EVERY TIME!!! NOT JUST ONCE EVERY TIME!!!

It's a fantasy.

Tell me when in the last 50 years Taxes on the JOB CREATORS have been LOWER than right now?!?!

Tell me when the last time SUBSIDIES and CORP WELFARE through TAX CUTS
were LOWER than right now?!?!

If you don't incent re-investment through regulations, penalties or just flat out taxes or whatever you want to call it the money will NEVER move from where it currently sits.

Why the hell should the Job creators actually create??? They have more PROFITS now than any time in recent history. They ain't paying squat to let the cash sit and build and yet you want to give them more while the rest of us middle classers SUBSIDIZE them through LOWER WAGES, HIGHER PRICES
and INCREASED TAX BURDENS to pay for their uses of what every American enjoys.

The lower taxes are only one part of the equation. the other half is FREEDOM from overregulation. Both of those simultaneously result in a bubbly economy.

All I hear when I read your drivel is that we need to raise taxes to fund more gubmint projects that give NO return on investment. Must be comfortable in your cocoon padded with socialist lies.

BASSY, you can find what you are looking for in just a short plane
ride... It's called SOMALIA!!!

voiceofreason wrote:

BASSY, you can find what you are looking for in just a short plane
ride... It's called SOMALIA!!!

26 hours isn't a short plane ride. Your geography is as bad as your civics, history and economics knowledge.

Are you drinking the canal water again VOR?

BASSY I have not one time ever advocated for raising taxes.
I have and will continue to ask that the Corp Welfare through subsidies
end. I will continue to ask that loopholes be closed for everyone and ask that
the top 1% pay more than 15% effective tax rate.

If this makes me a Socialist or a Pinko then so be it.
Fair is Fair.

voiceofreason wrote:

I will continue to ask that loopholes be closed for everyone and ask that the top 1% pay more than 15% effective tax rate.

The top 1% pay more than 15% Why don't you ask someone who 250 K or better what their rate is, if you even know someone there.

The top 5% pays for 90% of the taxes that the guvmint takes in, why do you persist in asking them to pay more? Especially when 47% of citizens have NO effective tax rate? If anything is unfair, that would be the poster child.

Willy my Brotha!! Do a little research, specifically on
effective tax rates and tax percentage on income derived
from dividends.

If the top 1% paid the same rate by % as you and I they
wouldn't be in the top 1%.

I have and always will be a huge proponent of a flat tax.
No loopholes you pay your percentage of income weather
you make 1,000,000 or 10 per year.

Okay, I'll do the research, but you won't like what I post.

Here's the first one:

http://factcheck.org/2008/05/top-1-what-they-make-and-pay/

This one shows how money of the money they actually have and relates it to how much they pay the government.

Next one:

http://www.american.com/archive/2007/november-december-magazine-contents/guess-who-really-pays-the-taxes

This shows what the top 25% in relation to what the bottom 50%(you and I) pay.

Another:

http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/250.html

This one goes on to show average tax rates, as well as showing ours is about 3%.



In rebuttal to your statement, if the rich paid the same rate we did, they would actually STILL be the top 1%. They're smart enough to know when to stop spending, hence the fat pile of cash...... Maybe our government should ask those rich bastards a little bit about money management.....

As far as taxes go, I'd prefer to not pay any at all, but that's a whole nutha can of worms I don't feel like getting into as of yet. However, the progressive tax system is SHIT, and we pay more %-wise into our system than any other country in the world. If you don't believe that, I assume you have explanation for those loads of jobs going overseas.

P.S. I have more links if that doesn't do ya.....

from your own data Will.


"Another indicator of this reversal in the income and tax shares of the top 1 percent is that during 2007, the top 1 percent had actually paid more in federal income tax than the bottom 95 percent, a comparison that was much remarked on a year ago. But the diminished income of the top 1 percent in 2008 means that the comparison no longer holds. During 2008, the bottom 95 percent (AGI under $159,619) paid 41.3 percent of the total collected, a larger share than the 38.0 percent paid by the top 1 percent (AGI over $380,354)."

myth 1 down

http://taxes.about.com/od/taxglossary/g/dividends.htm


0 to 15%

myth 2 shot to shit.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/18/967905/-Wealthiest-Americans-paying-17-percent-effective-income-tax-rate,-down-9-points-since-1992-

17% man I would love to only have to pay that

voiceofreason wrote:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/04/18/967905/-Wealthiest-Americans-paying-17-percent-effective-income-tax-rate,-down-9-points-since-1992-

17% man I would love to only have to pay that

This is a partial truth, verified by my third link. However, your libtard daily kos fails to point out that our effective tax rate is under three percent. That would have shot their class warfare garbage of an article out of the water.....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article1996735.ece

Finally from one of the best financial minds of our time.

Willy the top 1% will always put more in to the kitty.
In most years. I don't argue that. What I do argue is that
they pay the same rate per dollar that you and I do.

ya want to hear them whine make them pay 30 something
percent like I do.

voiceofreason wrote:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/money/tax/article1996735.ece

Finally from one of the best financial minds of our time.

There is more proof "out there" that indicates the Mr. Buffet is a liar. Furthermore, if he is so damn upset about the government only taxing him at 17%, which is another lie, he could just give the government the difference. But, Warren has his money because he isn't an idiot. So, I'm pretty sure I'll never see him actually do anything about it.

His secretary being taxed at 30 some odd percent is bullshit too.

But you're entitled to believe what you will....