Work ethic or the lack thereof

Yonni...don't know if this fits here move if you desire...

My Son (Chris) 18yo recently graduated from HS. He's a very even tempered, mild mannered, and respectful fellow...He's been employed at Taco Time for over a year working primarily night shift. Now within I'd say the last few months and more recently he's been upset with his job and he told me he got really PO'd last night while at work. Causing him some undue aggravation and stress resulting in some severe chest pain...which I'm very concerned about and talked with him and he feels much better today after he was able to come home last night and lie down....

So being the concerned parent I asked why he got pissed...his exact words, "because of the lazy ass people who complain about everything making him not only do his job but their job also". OBTW he told me when I asked...he said they are 'white'.

Now, again he's only 18...he says he wants to try and get on the day shift...why again I ask him...his exact words...even though the people on days don't speak English very good at least they work hard do their jobs including plus other team jobs without COMPLAINING and BITCHING. Soooooooooooooooooo the words of an 18yo white male...he made my day...

I have seen several articles lately about work ethic or lack thereof in America in recent history, I don't have the time quite yet to find them but when I do I will.

I am going to change the topic to work ethic though

Something about this posts really rings true with me. I work with nothing but white guys, and I swear I am in high school with all that bitching. At the same time, the productive ones are taken advantage of by the "little girls". I could go on and on about this, but if your son is interested in learning a vocation, we could use more like minded people where I work.

shotgunwill wrote:

but if your son is interested in learning a vocation, we could use more like minded people where I work.

Please send me a PM with the intel and I'll for sure pass along to him. Even though he works at Taco Time...he's a loyal worker and has never missed a scheduled day of work to my knowledge.

Makes you wonder if the night shift guys would be happier working a crappy job if their wages weren't artificially depressed by illegal immigrants?

hyperduc wrote:

Makes you wonder if the night shift guys would be happier working a crappy job if their wages weren't artificially depressed by illegal immigrants?

I get what your saying Hyperduc but if a person takes a job and agrees to do said job for a certain wage wether depressed or not is that person then not obligated to give 100% without complaining and bitching resulting in the lowering of morale of their fellow workers?

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Makes you wonder if the night shift guys would be happier working a crappy job if their wages weren't artificially depressed by illegal immigrants?

Also the Social Security numbers that they steal in order to work somewhere. My brother's friend has a daughter and they ruined her credit because some illegal was using her social security number.

hyperduc wrote:

Makes you wonder if the night shift guys would be happier working a crappy job if their wages weren't artificially depressed by illegal immigrants?

Hey Mr. Sunshine/positive and/or happy with an all knowing with a large pinch of the xenophobic attitude to the recipe...This is my son who is only 18 yo and his words...Has he asked to see a 'green' card or are they 'legal'...hell no...get off your doom and gloom that all who don't speak 'perfect' English by 'your' standards are illegal immigrants. Geezzzzzzzzzzzzz...get a life you have nothing positive about anything that isn't 'your' way

I see every day folks of national orgins who don't speak 'perfecto' English but I do know work very hard in JOBS AMERICANS WON'T TAKE...Do I care if they are here legally...No!!! but I do know they work very hard at what they do... and I see it every day in jobs most Americans find BENEATH them to do.

Bottom line there are and dare I say a vast majority of true Red, White, and Blue Americans who believe they deserve all on a silver platter...have you heard of TCNs from the Armed Forces personnel...maybe you need to further and get educated on TCN. Geeezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....an 18yo expressing to a parent complaining and pure laziness of 'white' workers where this child works....are you really that out-of-touch....obviously you are IMHO.

The lowest-paid, lowest-skilled, worst-shift jobs are, as often as not, filled by unmotivated and unskilled workers who, not surprisingly, lack the ambition to do anything about it other than complain about how badly they're treated and how little they're paid.

The bad, part-time jobs I had while I was in college, along with the rag-tag collection of co-"workers" in those jobs, served as awfully good reminders of why I was in college. I don't know your son, K2, but he seems to be growing up into someone with a set of standards that compels him to not settle for just getting by, and that, I think, is a dang good thing that will serve him well in life.

As for workers who don't speak English, all other things aside, they're in those jobs mostly because they lack the skills necessary for other, higher-paying, jobs, not because they're unmotivated, stupid or lazy. Migrant workers, despite how they got here, came here to work, not sit on their butts complaining about how life has mistreated them. Assuming the applicant was here legally, I'd gladly hire a hard-working immigrant who arrived here with the intention of bettering his or her life over a 20-something, native-born complainer whose poor attitude and bad work habits lead him from one bottom-rung job to another.

Good pay does not make a person work harder or less lazy. And poor pay does not make a hard worker irresponsible or lazy. Instead, good pay and a good job are the rewards one obtains from hard work, a good attitude, high standards, ambition and having pride in one's work.

A strong work ethic has to be taught and nurtured. It's not something that someone magically decides to have at age 22 when they finally get to earn money after 16 years of nothing but book schooling.
A work ethic begins in a child with a hunger, whether a real food hunger or one to succeed instilled and fostered by a parent, close relative or some other respected adult...someone that can help them understand the inherent unfairness of life and the rewards and punishments of taking risks. Each child needs someone that helps them understand that the bottom rung of the ladder of success is a fine place to start and that moving upward is mostly up to the skills of the climber, not the others on that ladder. At least that's the way it should be.

What I have noticed in the last twenty years is a general decline in the number of young adults (local, predominantly white) that are willing to sweat or get dirty for a paycheck.

This is a topic that I feel as an employer in the Food Service industry I have alot of knowledge in....... In my opinion work ethic is dictated by economic situations.... If you break it down by generation you can see that the work ethic in this country has gone down hill dramatically over the last few generations.... Saying that you might think that all is lost and people will never have a solid work ethic again....I disagree and here is why. After WWII you had the baby boom.... Baby boomers were raised by parents that went through the Great Depression... Most baby boomers grew up in households that had parents that would not spend money unless it was absolutely necessary, remember these people had seen the depression. As the baby boomers went into the work place they had a strong work ethic and did well for themselves. But in doing that they remembered all the things they went without and said that there kids would never have to live like that. The next generation in a sense still had some work ethic installed in them because there parents were hard working but they were given a lot more by there parents... Each generation sense then has been getting something for nothing because thats just the way life works in there eyes....Now starting in the late 90's it seemed to me as an employer that kids were flat ass lazy....they drove brand new trucks and cars bought by mommy and daddy and when they did go to work they didnt appreciate the fact that they had a job and the ability to earn money....I hired so many kids that were 18 and just out of high school and had never had a job....needless to say they had no work ethic and did a lousy job...... Now I have noticed in the last 2 or 3 years that the kids that I am hiring, want to work..Since the recession started there parents do not have the ability to shove a silver spoon in there ass.....The kids I am hiring now are 15 and 16 years old and are thankful to have a job.....Right now if an employer has lazy inept help...that is there own fault...It is an employer's market right now.... If this country ever gets out of this economic mess that its in I am sure it will change right back to no work ethic at all....................I guess in the short version...parents dictate the work ethic there kids have....If the parents have a lousy work ethic then it stands to reason that there kids will also...................

plottrunner wrote:

Now I have noticed in the last 2 or 3 years that the kids that I am hiring, want to work..Since the recession started there parents do not have the ability to shove a silver spoon in there ass.....The kids I am hiring now are 15 and 16 years old and are thankful to have a job.....Right now if an employer has lazy inept help...that is there own fault...It is an employer's market right now.... If this country ever gets out of this economic mess that its in I am sure it will change right back to no work ethic at all....................I guess in the short version...parents dictate the work ethic there kids have....If the parents have a lousy work ethic then it stands to reason that there kids will also...................

Bingo Plott, it all falls back on the parents. So K2 it sounds like your boy was raised right, it might not be the best job in the world but its his job and he will do it to his best ability. I had the exact same expirence to day at my work. The co-worker I relieved had not done any of the assignments given to her so I had to come to work and finish hers plus do mine. I should of left them for her in the morning but then I'm sure I would of taken the ass chewing that would of happenend. I congradulate you for raising your boy with great work values and him for sticking with it.
regardless of who the shitty workers are.