Did I see VOR in the crowd? lulz

Watch the vids. This Tea Partier makes me proud. oH...and SCREW public unions.

https://sites.google.com/a/truthaboutbills.com/www/News-Feed/1vs100teapartierdefendshimselfagainstunionmembersvideos

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-02-27/u-s-recovery-might-need-public-sector-unions-tom-juravich.html


Not me BASSY

So if the Unions are willing to make concessions and give Adolph Walker what he is asking for as far as the budget tell me who the lying crook is??

I am rather fond of this little bit of anonymous verbiage

"Cutting taxes $200 million for big business creating a $137 million deficit in the process. Then he wants to balance that deficit with the healthcare and grocery money of middle-class working folks. Sounds like a typical Republican to me."
Carry on

I’ll tell you who the liar is VOR: it’s Tom Juravich when he says in his article that “There is no evidence that public-sector workers in Wisconsin have higher total compensation than their counterparts in the private sector.” If that moron stopped cherry picking his polls, he’d know that. And so would you.

Alright look... Lets quit beating around the proverbail and literal Bush's and Regan's here.

As long as you tie your economy to the supply side economic theory
you are going to get exactly what you are getting right now.

If you want to break the cycle give the people that spend the money
the money to spend.

PLEASE answer why it is OK to continue to give the wealthy and corporations all of the breaks??? Why not put money in the pockets of those that are going to spend with the wealthy and Corporations. I don't give a rats starfish if it takes a Union to accomplish this task, an act of God or how we get there.

If this makes me a Union sympathizer or a Commie so be it. I'd prefer to think of myself of not filling the definition of insanity like all trickle down supply siders are... Every time we go this route we end up right where we are

voiceofreason wrote:

PLEASE answer why it is OK to continue to give the wealthy and corporations all of the breaks??? Why not put money in the pockets of those that are going to spend with the wealthy and Corporations. I don't give a rats starfish if it takes a Union to accomplish this task, an act of God or how we get there.

In short, because they pay the LION'S SHARE OF TAXES. But, as you asserted, there should be more tax breaks for all.

First, unions WERE established to protect workers rights. Their original intent was just that, although some of said rights were about fair compensation. Having said that, if a union worker was paid more, received more and better benefits, etc., than a non-union worker, hasn't said union over accomplished their goals? What if that over accomplishment comes at the expense of tax payer? Would you be okay with that?

What if one of your kids, if you have any, said to you "Dad, 20 bux isn't enough for allowance, brother and I decided it should be 40. If you don't go along with this, were just gonna trash the place every chance we get." I don't know about you, but I'd be whuppin some ass. Yeah, I'm sure your kids would call you a Nazi, just like they did Gov. Walker, but in the end, how you would handle that is good for them. Right?

Here you go, VOR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLilhZ_73Zc&feature=player_embedded

Damn BASSY the only thing missing from that little clip was the promise of growing hair back on my bald head by using their snake oil...


WILLY that a good attempt at an analogy. Far from relevant to the discussion at hand but a good Tea Party outlook none the less. Here is the real analogy. My kids ( of which I have 3 ) decide they want a raise in their allowance. I comply in giving that raise with the understanding that as part of that raise they will in turn take on additional chores, cover their own lunch ( Union Healthcare ) cover their own gas ( Union Pensions and retirement programs )

These are all concessions the Unions have made. Right??

voiceofreason wrote:

Damn BASSY the only thing missing from that little clip was the promise of growing hair back on my bald head by using their snake oil...


WILLY that a good attempt at an analogy. Far from relevant to the discussion at hand but a good Tea Party outlook none the less. Here is the real analogy. My kids ( of which I have 3 ) decide they want a raise in their allowance. I comply in giving that raise with the understanding that as part of that raise they will in turn take on additional chores, cover their own lunch ( Union Healthcare ) cover their own gas ( Union Pensions and retirement programs )

These are all concessions the Unions have made. Right??

So you, the "taxpayer" in this case are willing to pay them each twice what you make in salary and you, yourself don't have health insurance, pensions or retirement programs? Good thinking there!

Uh BASSY if I the Centrist that I am, had an issue with my salary or benefits why in the f_ _ _
why I feel better about taking away from what someone else is making??? Talk about redistribution!!! Shit!!!

They have it we don't like it because it raises what my taxes are by .38 cents per year so now they can't have it either???

Is this like a reverse Tea Party type of deal here??? You A-Holes won't be happy till the Koch Brothers and Fox News runs the world!!!

Seriously tell me one time when trickle down hasn't blown the deficit through the stratosphere??? Tell me when the last time making bigwigs pay their fair share resulted in a higher deficit??

Following your patriotic logic we should ship every F-ING chance at employment to India right??? It's great for the top. Great for the bottom line, but how does that put bread on the table here in America???

Look the Unions made concessions, Dickhead Walker gave the tax cut to business.... WHY??? Do you honestly believe that they are going to hire more workers??? Or pay their workers a fair wage???

Call me, I've got some prime beachfront acreage a little west of Dugway you may be interested in

voiceofreason wrote:

Uh BASSY if I the Centrist that I am, had an issue with my salary or benefits why in the f_ _ _
why I feel better about taking away from what someone else is making??? Talk about redistribution!!! Shit!!!

They have it we don't like it because it raises what my taxes are by .38 cents per year so now they can't have it either???

Is this like a reverse Tea Party type of deal here??? You A-Holes won't be happy till the Koch Brothers and Fox News runs the world!!!

Seriously tell me one time when trickle down hasn't blown the deficit through the stratosphere??? Tell me when the last time making bigwigs pay their fair share resulted in a higher deficit??

Following your patriotic logic we should ship every F-ING chance at employment to India right??? It's great for the top. Great for the bottom line, but how does that put bread on the table here in America???

Look the Unions made concessions, Dickhead Walker gave the tax cut to business.... WHY??? Do you honestly believe that they are going to hire more workers??? Or pay their workers a fair wage???

Call me, I've got some prime beachfront acreage a little west of Dugway you may be interested in

Total compensation of Wisconsin teachers averaged $75,587 in 2010. For 9 months of work. Sounds like quite the racket, especially since the union does it best to keep incompetent teachers employed.

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/wisconsin-teachers-earned-average-75-587

"Wisconsin had the lowest graduation rate among African-American public school students with 41%, followed by Florida, Oregon, and Tennessee. The highest rate of graduation among African-American students was 74% in West Virginia, followed by Arkansas, Massachusetts, and Virginia."
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_31.htm


The only time America ran a dangerous deficit has been in the last 2 years. The overall economy is down and everbody is hurting from it...except the unionized public servants. They are paid through taxing the private sector and the taxpayers have decided that they will no longer pay those exorbitant taxes so that school teachers and garbagemen can live like kings.
The saddest part is that with these huge deficits, YOUR children are being screwed out of their futures...and you don't seem to care.

And thank God for the Kochs since without their industry, those lazy-ass teachers in Wisconsin would have little or no retirement.

"According to the State of Wisconsin Investment Board (SWIB), the Wisconsin Retirement System owns $5.5 million in Georgia Pacific corporate bonds. (Georgia Pacific is owned by Koch Industries.) This is the retirement system in which the overwhelming majority of state and local employees participate. These are the pension benefits that public employees are trying so hard to protect. …
Granted, $5.5 million out of a $18.5 billion fixed-income bond fund isn’t a whole lot. (The state also holds about $5 million worth of Colgate bonds, meaning it is in the pocket of Big Toothpaste.) But one imagines the public unions’ vitriol will soften a little bit when they realize their retirement payout is incumbent on the success of the Kochs. They’re all part of the same money-making ecosystem, despite many state employees believing all their retirement funds are invested exclusively in dreams and rainbows.
So in the end, public unions should recognize that the real Koch will do them a lot more good than the fake one ever did."

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/06/irony-of-the-week/

BTW...Here is a list of the biggest political contributors to politicians. Unions spend far more than the Kochs!

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/260943/union-power-numbers-kevin-d-williamson

voiceofreason wrote:

WILLY that a good attempt at an analogy. Far from relevant to the discussion at hand but a good Tea Party outlook none the less. Here is the real analogy. My kids ( of which I have 3 ) decide they want a raise in their allowance. I comply in giving that raise with the understanding that as part of that raise they will in turn take on additional chores, cover their own lunch ( Union Healthcare ) cover their own gas ( Union Pensions and retirement programs )

It would appear from your analogy, that you would choose to collude with the unions, making you a PERFECT candidate for POTUS

VOR 2012!!!

So what do Wisconsin Natives think??

http://www.wpri.org/polls/March2011/ToplinesWPRIFebMar%202011.pdf

voiceofreason wrote:

So what do Wisconsin Natives think?? http://www.wpri.org/polls/March2011/ToplinesWPRIFebMar%202011.pdf

I don't know VOR..... .....there's rumor floating around that Gov. Walker might be caving.......

Well Gov Walker did it

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_WISCONSIN_BUDGET_UNIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-03-09-19-45-22

I think it's laughable that Democrats in Wisconsin are accusing Republicans of not doing their job, all the way from Illinois. I think it ought to be painfully obvious how much those Democrats that left, care about their districts.

Ahhhh. Anne Coulter really helps put things into perspective:

http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2011/03/09/six-figure_bus_drivers_and_other_working-class_heroes

dubob wrote:

And the lovely Ms Coulter was on Hannity last night as well. You can see the clips of that interview here:

http://www.mofopolitics.com/2011/03/09/ann-coulter-on-hannity-3911/

LOL she drove Hannity nuts!!!

Cant believe I'm actually posting a link from fux news but oh well


http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2011/03/10/watching-uproar-wisconsin-protests-time-remember-unions-make-lives-better/

BOB enjoy this weekend COURTESY OF OUR UNION BROTHERS that brought it to you!!!!!