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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:44 pm | |
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Yonni Admin
Posts : 821 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 45 Location : Salt Lake City
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Wed Aug 04, 2010 3:01 pm | |
| Hey VOR will you tell me why I should vote for Granato? Curious how you would sell your candidate to me, thanks | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:18 pm | |
| Well because he's not doing:
"*Mike Lee is a (DC Based) Lawyer who doesn’t want Utah to have a say in whether or not they allow nuclear waste. (States rights my butt.)"
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"*Mike Lee is in favor of underground nuclear testing. Except he is in favor of ratifying a treaty that bans testing of nuclear weapons. Unless a country decides they need to test to preserve their national security. (If a Democrat took that many positions, he’d be called a flip-flopper.)"
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"Mike Lee isn’t just a lobbyist. Mike Lee is an illegal Lobbyist."
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"Mike Lee wants to raise taxes on the poor and middle-class."
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"Mike Lee seems to forget that Article 3 of the Constitution gives the Supreme Court the authority to declare whether laws are constitutional or not."
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"Mike Lee loves the constitution, with the exception of Article 3 and Amendments 14, 16, 17, and 10 (only when it is contrary to the desires of his clients)."
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Yonni Admin
Posts : 821 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 45 Location : Salt Lake City
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:24 pm | |
| Sorry I should have given my question differently. Tell me whY I should vote for Granato without mentioning Mike Lee? I want to hear quality(s) that Granto may have, how do you know he won't do the same stuff Mike Lee has already done? can you support your candidate without knowing what he stands for as long as he is not Mike Lee? | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:52 pm | |
| Well, Sammy ain't got a chance in hell of winning this. But he will get my vote for the following reasons. (most are the same you would never in a million years vote for him) 1. He's a small business owner not an E.S. Corp Legal Shill. 2. He is Pro Wall St. Reform / Regulation 3. He is Pro Healthcare Reform. and most of all He's not running wild playing on the asinine paranoia that you all lap up when Mike Lee opens his mouth. He can run on issues, and principles not on the worn out bumpersticker rhetoric that the GOP Candidate spoon feeds you. What is the great GOP plan??? Anybody??? Just vote no??? Ya saw the video where those fools doubled back on their stances once they lost!!! They haven't done much but lay in the fetal position and piss and moan since.... MY Opinion is M. Lee will fit right in with the good old Utah GOP Contingent... Including Matheson and that freaking Cadaver Bishop. GO SAMMY | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:17 am | |
| - voiceofreason wrote:
- Well, Sammy ain't got a chance in hell of winning this. But he will get my vote for the following reasons. (most are the same you would never in a million years vote for him)
1. He's a small business owner not an E.S. Corp Legal Shill. Being a small business owner is a positive, but not enough of one to justify voting for on its own.
2. He is Pro Wall St. Reform / Regulation This is a major negative. The new financial 'reform'/regulations just passed by the inane Democrats is a boon for big crony capitalists and a death nail for small businesses. Funny how Sam is a small business owner, yet he supports regulations that hurt/hinder small businesses. Either he is clueless about the negative impacts regulations have EVERY time on small businesses, or he is such an idealist that he is willing to screw his peers.
3. He is Pro Healthcare Reform. Who isn't? What a nonsensical assertion. Maybe you can try and articulate what specifically he wants to 'reform' on how he would do so. How about it?
and most of all He's not running wild playing on the asinine paranoia that you all lap up when Mike Lee opens his mouth. He can run on issues, and principles not on the worn out bumpersticker rhetoric that the GOP Candidate spoon feeds you. No, instead he spreads the same BS that Obama spews. Here is a helpful hint for ANYONE wishing to be taken serious for election in Utah: do NOT run as a clone to Obama.
What is the great GOP plan??? Anybody??? Just vote no??? Ya saw the video where those fools doubled back on their stances once they lost!!! They haven't done much but lay in the fetal position and piss and moan since.... MY Opinion is M. Lee will fit right in with the good old Utah GOP Contingent... Including Matheson and that freaking Cadaver Bishop. Voting no is often the ONLY sane option when the Democrats are so arrogant they are unwilling to compromise and reach across the aisle. It's kind of hard to meet when the Democrats often times meet behind closed doors, don't you think? If there were more Democrats like Matheson we would be in far better shape than we are right now, but even he gets dumb and ignores the Principles of this Nation far too often.
GO SAMMY Yes, you go Sammy! Spend your funds, it will help 'stimulate' the economy. But alas, even Sammy KNOWS he has a snowballs in hells chance.
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Thu Aug 05, 2010 2:09 pm | |
| Bullshit PROphylactic.... The GOP is blocking their own plan to free up money to help small businesses when they need it most. Is this worse than your paranoid stance against any type of rules and order??? Like the example above and the video I posted the GOP is not voting against the Dems because they disagree with the stance or direction, they are voting no to create failure plain and simple. The Tea Party Extremists have created an environment where a supposed Conservative or Moderate doesn't have a chance.... TALIBAN ONE PARTY SYSTEM ANYONE????? Watch this and tell me I'm wrong. http://www.politicalnecrosis.com/national-issues-f4/another-favorite-t371.htm | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Thu Aug 05, 2010 4:15 pm | |
| - voiceofreason wrote:
- Bullshit PROphylactic.... The GOP is blocking their own plan to free
up money to help small businesses when they need it most. Is this worse than your paranoid stance against any type of rules and order???
Like the example above and the video I posted the GOP is not voting against the Dems because they disagree with the stance or direction, they are voting no to create failure plain and simple. The Tea Party Extremists have created an environment where a supposed Conservative or Moderate doesn't have a chance.... TALIBAN ONE PARTY SYSTEM ANYONE????? Watch this and tell me I'm wrong.
http://www.politicalnecrosis.com/national-issues-f4/another-favorite-t371.htm There is no way you are serious! Nice spin, but pure BS on your part. Freeing up money to small businesses can be good/bad depending on how it is done. What the Democrats are wanting is HORRIBLE for small businesses and HORRIBLE for tax payers in general. Using Rachel Madcow as 'proof' of anything, but of you being a libtard, is nonsensical. What's next, you going to cite Michale Moore on gun issues to support your stance? Too funny! | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Thu Aug 05, 2010 7:21 pm | |
| My Brotha I am unfortunately serious on this deal... The GOP is going to get some control back at the midterms and probably most of it back in 12. I am telling you right now.... Mark this down... Tattoo it on you butt that these Tea Party extremists are going to push this country so far in to the OUTER REACHES of what even you would consider the far right that the revolt and backlash is going to be tremendous in 16.
Mike Lee is just another nutless pawn, like Hatch in what is going to be the undoing of any type of common sense in American politics.
The only hope of the far right conservative movement is that the Tea Party is watered down somewhat by the rock the vote crowd and balance is met that way, cause if that philosophy is allowed to rape the Economy, Planet and all the other shit that the Far Right rapes you will finally as a philosophy and a movement be handed enough rope to do yourselves in.
Like I said and you watched Palin McCain et al spout the stuff right to your face aas long as the GOP can say we made him fail then they have done their job... To hell with the country and the American Citizens right??? They sure showed Obama | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:12 pm | |
| I think VOR has gone completely cocoa for cocoa puffs. There is no other explanation. | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:41 pm | |
| Ha ha ha!!!! Seems I ain't the only Cocoa Puffs fan.... Did ya catch the Doug Wright Show today??? Or perhaps maybe the article in the Trib??? Mr MAC stumping for a DEM??? Bennett Jr. Stumping for a DEM??? WHY???
I think the Tea Partier's are the ones that are crazier than shithouse rats!!!!! | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sat Aug 07, 2010 12:50 am | |
| First, I would rather visit the dentist than listen to Doug Wright. Second, WTF does "Mr. Mac" have to do with anything? When did he become the symbol of rational political views? Third, Bennett Jr is likely as DUMB as Bennett Sr, who was booted out on his ass for being a moron and a progressive pinhead. So, what's your point?
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:19 am | |
| You are right PROphylactic!!! Just ignore it | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sat Aug 07, 2010 10:53 am | |
| Ignore what? That a guy who sells suits likes a guy that sells tomatoes? BFD! | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:50 am | |
| The Conservative base getting sick of the extremism | |
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Yonni Admin
Posts : 821 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 45 Location : Salt Lake City
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:11 am | |
| - voiceofreason wrote:
- The Conservative base getting sick of the extremism
Will you care to back this up? I have yet to see any polls or even articles to prove this, yet the dems seems set to believe this is true. Almighty VOR please enlighten me! | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:42 am | |
| - voiceofreason wrote:
- The Conservative base getting sick of the extremism
What makes you think Mr Mac and/or Bennett Jr are conservatives? Much ado about NOTHING. | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:32 pm | |
| More to ignore!!! "Lee, an attorney, acknowledges the courts don’t support his interpretation. They instead have found that the federal government does not need permission to turn already public lands into protected wilderness. “It’s not,” Lee said, “how the courts would look at it today.” Granato said his opponent’s stance doesn’t make sense — legally or politically. “I don’t believe it needs to go to the Legislature for them to give it their blessing,” he said. “This is the same element where Mike Lee wants to get rid of big government but now he wants to add another layer of government on to local decisions.” http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50060271-76/county-lee-wilderness-bill.html.csp I know you are going to say this is a great idea and I couldn't disagree more!!!!!! "Almighty VOR please enlighten me!" Thanks YONNI for finally addressing me properly!!!!! | |
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proutdoors Lobbyist
Posts : 1069 Join date : 2010-05-29 Age : 57 Location : Gunnison Valley
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:07 pm | |
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- “Before Congress passes any law declaring wilderness,” he said, “the state Legislature should sign off on it.”
Lee isn’t seeking any change in federal or state law requiring legislative approval. Rather, he is stating a personal policy: He won’t support any Senate bill involving Utah wilderness that the Legislature didn’t approve of through a resolution or some other vote. What an 'extreme' position. A Senator, whose primary function is to REPRESENT THE STATE, wants to make sure HIS state is represented on issues that directly affect HIS state. Yes, I can see why you see that as unreasonable. | |
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voiceofreason Activist
Posts : 756 Join date : 2010-05-31 Age : 59 Location : SLC
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sun Aug 08, 2010 7:15 pm | |
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fatbass Activist
Posts : 767 Join date : 2010-05-29 Location : Bryant-Denny Stadium. ROLL TIDE ROLL!
| Subject: Re: More Mike Lee Comedy Gold!!! Sun Aug 08, 2010 9:08 pm | |
| Voiceofweasels, I fully support Energy Solutions and their excellent usage of wasteland. Having worked for Westinghouse in the nuclear industry for 12 years, I'm well schooled on low-level radiation issues and I can assure you that all emotional fears over the ES dump are groundless and that you are either ignorant or a hopeless romantic. Yucca Mountain is the correct place for spent control rods and other highly fissionable materials but our west desert is just fine for the low level stuff. I heard Granato cuts his extra virgin olive oil with safflower and I no longer trust him. Typical democrat. | |
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