Parents can opt their students out of Obama speech

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12272239

This really bothered me last year and now here we go again. Is this country seriously so divided that parents don't want their kids to hear a speech by our president about the importance of education? I just don't get it.

[i]Haney says the last time President Obama gave a similar speech to school children they received phone calls from hundreds of parents that were concerned about their children watching the address. Haney says any students that bring back a completed opt-out form will participate in a separate educational activity while the rest of the students watch the speech. [b]

I don't get it either but my kid is unusually perceptive for her age. When he was running she thought it was pretty cool a black guy was running for president and she hoped he would be elected. It ruffled my feathers but I kept my mouth shut. After about 6 months of him being in office after one of his press conferences she came out of her room and said Obama lies too much we should have never elected him. Her favorite joke now is "What does Obama stand for?" my answer the first time she asked was "nothing" and she informed me it was an acronym for "One Big Ass Mistake America" Give the POS enough rope and he will hang himself. All that aside I don't think we send our children to school to listen to political rhetoric. Having Obama tout the importance of education,considering his lack of bonafide qualifications to hold his present office is akin to having Bill Clinton tout the importance of abstaining from sex.

ScottyP wrote:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12272239

This really bothered me last year and now here we go again. Is this country seriously so divided that parents don't want their kids to hear a speech by our president about the importance of education? I just don't get it.[b]

The answer is YES actually. There are quite a few people who CAN NOT STAND Obama. This may come as a shock to you, but some people who dislike him feel that HAVING to listen to an Obama speech is part of a liberal indoctrination process. Similar to the one you have had so much disdain for in terms of teaching children religion.

Ok before you flame me for this hear me out...... A year ago when this happened my wife was up in arms and said our kids are not watching this... I had to remind her that he was the elected president of the United States of America and because of that then we should not refuse to let our kids watch him speak.... Me personally I think the guy is an asshat but he is still my president and do to my belief in God I do not believe that anything is an accident in his divine plan and that Obama is there for some reason..... People need to give there kids credit for being able to see bullshit when its put in front of them and if his speech is full of a bunch of political bullshit then I would hope my kids were smart enough to see it. This kind of hatred is what is destroying this great nation. A nation divided will not stand.... That quote is thrown around alot but the first person to use it was 2000 years ago and if this offends the atheists then thats sad but Im posting it anyways...
Luke 11:17
17But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.

What I don't get is how any sitting president promoting education to the youth of our nation can be construed as a bad thing. I always thought the Bush derangement syndrome many on the left suffered from was silly. Now people on the right are giving them a run for their money.

Last year's speech was non-political and there is no reason to believe this year will be any different. The canyons district has a policy that a parent can opt their children out of any subject matter they want to. Sending out a flier was not necessary and a waste of district funds.

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I always thought the Bush derangement syndrome many on the left suffered from was silly. Now people on the right are giving them a run for their money.

as Pro would say A-FREAKEN-MEN

plottrunner wrote:

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I always thought the Bush derangement syndrome many on the left suffered from was silly. Now people on the right are giving them a run for their money.

as Pro would say A-FREAKEN-MEN

It is freaking not freaken Plotty.

oops my bad...sorry for the misquote Pro...

ScottyP wrote:

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12272239

This really bothered me last year and now here we go again. Is this country seriously so divided that parents don't want their kids to hear a speech by our president about the importance of education? I just don't get it.

[i]Haney says the last time President Obama gave a similar speech to school children they received phone calls from hundreds of parents that were concerned about their children watching the address. Haney says any students that bring back a completed opt-out form will participate in a separate educational activity while the rest of the students watch the speech. [b]

As soon as BHO releases his college transcripts and other records I'll think about it...

plottrunner wrote:

oops my bad...sorry for the misquote Pro...

This is one of MANY reasons why I am glad I home school my kids! For those that imply there is nothing to be concerned about by having Obama speak to the children; I think of Animal Farm..........

proutdoors wrote:

I think of Animal Farm..........

Are you saying that Squealer and Napoleon are walking on their hind legs and living in the farm (white) house?

Pete wrote:

proutdoors wrote:

I think of Animal Farm..........

Are you saying that Squealer and Napoleon are walking on their hind legs and living in the farm (white) house?

No, but now that you mention it..

I thought I heard banjo music. Grab your hood and your Wife / Sister... We're going down to pull Cletus and Jethro out of school!!!!!

I think any good parent will let their child watch it and talk to them after about what they thought about it. Putting blinders on our children is the wrong thing to do. Look at how well that works in Utah for teen pregnancy.

jahan wrote:

I think any good parent will let their child watch it and talk to them after about what they thought about it. Putting blinders on our children is the wrong thing to do. Look at how well that works in Utah for teen pregnancy.

You're right, maybe we should have Hugo Chavez speak to the kids as well. After all, we don't want 'blinders' on the children do we?

proutdoors wrote:

jahan wrote:

I think any good parent will let their child watch it and talk to them after about what they thought about it. Putting blinders on our children is the wrong thing to do. Look at how well that works in Utah for teen pregnancy.

You're right, maybe we should have Hugo Chavez speak to the kids as well. After all, we don't want 'blinders' on the children do we?

For Christ sake pull the off the blindfold, he is talking to the children about school, he is not going to be telling them about his latest economic plans. It isn't like there is a hidden subplot to vote for Democrats in November, this is a whole lot about nothing.

Tell us how you really feel Jahan....

plottrunner wrote:

Tell us how you really feel Jahan....

I get so tired of all the conspiracy theory folks thinking he is going to brain wash our kids. I don't like Obama one bit, but I am realistic not a fanatic. Pro knows I still love him in a non homsexual way.

dubob wrote:

jahan wrote:

For Christ sake pull the off the blindfold, he is talking to the children about school, he is not going to be telling them about his latest economic plans.

Well, no, he is NOT talking to children in school. He is talking to adults and he will be talking about his plans. Probably not economic, but plans none the less.

Why do we need to subject any child to that crap? Ninety percent (or more) of it will be WAY above their comprehension level and they will be bored silly. I can think of NO reason why they NEED to be subjected to it. And I haven't seen anybody else’s reasons that changes my mind either.

And for the record - I'm not wearing any blindfold and I don't think his speech is part of a conspiracy.

Maybe I am getting confused, I thought this was just a speech to the children about school? That is all the article says, it says nothing about him laying out his political plans. Where are you getting your information?

jahan wrote:

proutdoors wrote:

jahan wrote:

I think any good parent will let their child watch it and talk to them after about what they thought about it. Putting blinders on our children is the wrong thing to do. Look at how well that works in Utah for teen pregnancy.

You're right, maybe we should have Hugo Chavez speak to the kids as well. After all, we don't want 'blinders' on the children do we?

For Christ sake pull the off the blindfold, he is talking to the children about school, he is not going to be telling them about his latest economic plans. It isn't like there is a hidden subplot to vote for Democrats in November, this is a whole lot about nothing.

While you are correct that Obama won't be discussing his latest flawed economics, you are extremely naive if you think there won't be any propaganda spewed meant to slide the Overton Window. If you want your son to hear Obama's message, DO IT! But, for many Americans, that is NOT why they send their kids to school, so WTF should they? I don't have to worry about it, since my kids are taught in the home, thankfully!

dubob wrote:

jahan wrote:

Where are you getting your information?

How about the Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom and the American Enterprise Institute to name a couple. And the Department of Education offered educators "classroom activities" to coincide with Obama's message which were troubling to me on the surface. I firmly believe that ANY President – regardless of party affiliation – never gives a speech that isn’t politically motivated. And this speech by Obama is no exception. The message is always subtle, but it’s always there.

And I don't think you're confused at all; just mislead by the drive-by media.

I was sincerely asking the question, because I figured maybe my source wasn't giving all the info, thanks. Didn't Bush and other Presidents give similar speeches?

I just don't think it is wise to shelter our children, to be well educated on a subject you need to see all sides of an issue.

jahan wrote:

I just don't think it is wise to shelter our children, to be well educated on a subject you need to see all sides of an issue.

Which is why I asked if they should listen to Hugo or Imanutjob or Ill. After all, you are saying we 'need' to see ALL sides of an issue.....so why not the sides presented by these folks?