Tea Party in Utah

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/52441382-90/business-movement-party-percent.html.csp

Dropping like a rock

yup I changed your verb-age, try and show some class in the future please

So the trib is taking advantage of Shurtleffs disagreements with the tea party, old news my friend he hasn't been a fan since day one.

The only thing dropping like a rock is Obama's poll numbers, how low is it now?

A 4% difference from the peak of the tea party is not much change!

Lets see they had a 46% approval rating in THE REDDEST OF RED STATES
and a 10% drop ain't bad??? In Utah???

Spin away friends

You are more clueless than I thought! The Tea Party is NOT a political party, dumbass. It is citizens waking up and not liking where this nation is headed. It is a movement of people who care about there country, about the debt being placed on their children, about returning to the Principles that made this, at one time, the greatest nation in human history. Far too many citizens, yes even here in Utah, are ignorant on what those Principles are/were. The Tea Party is waking people up, educating people, and that is what people like Shurtliff....a political insider to the core.......are afraid of. You won't find any support for the Tea Party movement from either party at the leadership level, it is a threat to their power/greed/corruption.

I am curious why any citizen would be against a movement that calls for more responsible government action, less corruption, more individual liberty, and less government power? Can you please educate me on what the Tea Party stands for that you are against?

Voiceoftreason only wants his socialist utopia. It's just cute that he really believes it's possible!

proutdoors wrote:

You won't find any support for the Tea Party movement from either party at the leadership level, it is a threat to their power/greed/corruption.

Awesome, thank you.....

This is the very reason the MSM slams the TEA party at every turn and leading politicians won't jump on board. It's not about ideals, it's about power and money.

Who exactly are the Taliban Patriots educating??? People that don't think
like they do?? People who are less American than they are???
It seems like they are pretty sure that they have all of the answers and if someone doesn't fit in to their narrow little box they are not worthy... I am glad they have humbled themselves long enough to admit how great they are and just how stupid the rest of us are.

Sounds like a dictatorship to me.. One point of view and off we go.

No Thanks

There is no way you are this damn dumb! Admit it, you are just a troll looking for some sewage to gnaw on.

When was the last time you studied the Constitution? The Federalist Papers? The writings of the Founders? The Constitution? Did I mention the Constitution? Now ask me why people in this country NEED to be educated!

Most Americans are asleep, clueless of what is going on around them. How many understand what the massive deficit means to them and future generations? How many of them even understand we were once a republic NOT a democracy? It isn't a matter of who is more 'American', it is a matter of many of seeing what is happening and NOT liking it. I will fight to my last breath to do everything I can to make this place as good or better for my children and grandchildren. If that offends you, too damn bad!

If you like where this nation is headed, you have low.....check that....no standards. Blaming the Tea Party MOVEMENT for even one ounce of the mountain of problems this nation is facing is like blaming Paul Revere for the British attacking the Americans during the Revolutionary war. Just because some are awake, and yes educated, enough to see what is coming, does NOT mean they are to blame when it happens.

As for your lameass linking the Tea Party MOVEMENT to a dictatorship, you are making a fool of yourself. How is calling for SMALLER government and MORE individual Liberty a step toward a dictatorship?

The Taliban ( Tea Baggers ) exist for one reason. To see this administration fail.
They'd risk economic meltdown by continuing to say no even when our nutless President
caves to their demands and gives them everything they wanted. Like I said The Group "NOT A PARTY"
sounds more and more like a gang of dictators then politicians, damn longshot from any kind of
statesman.

voiceofreason wrote:

The Taliban ( Tea Baggers ) exist for one reason. To see this administration fail.
They'd risk economic meltdown by continuing to say no even when our nutless President
caves to their demands and gives them everything they wanted. Like I said The Group "NOT A PARTY"
sounds more and more like a gang of dictators then politicians, damn longshot from any kind of
statesman.

Anybody that is enslaving my progeny (through indebtedness or otherwise) will be lucky to only be deposed.

voiceofreason wrote:

The Taliban ( Tea Baggers ) exist for one reason. To see this administration fail.
They'd risk economic meltdown by continuing to say no even when our nutless President
caves to their demands and gives them everything they wanted. Like I said The Group "NOT A PARTY"
sounds more and more like a gang of dictators then politicians, damn longshot from any kind of
statesman.

So where does "you have to pass it, to find out what's in it." fit in with this statement?

I know you probably aren't like this in your personal life, but you talk about the TEA party much the way that stupid bitch Maxine Waters does. And that's just ignorant of the truth.

voiceofreason wrote:

The Taliban ( Tea Baggers ) exist for one reason. To see this administration fail.
They'd risk economic meltdown by continuing to say no even when our nutless President
caves to their demands and gives them everything they wanted. Like I said The Group "NOT A PARTY"
sounds more and more like a gang of dictators then politicians, damn longshot from any kind of
statesman.

Shows how ignorant you are. The Tea Party started BEFORE this administration was elected into office. But, as usual you don't let something as minor as FACTS get in the way......

Tell me, what is more likely to cause an economic meltdown: reduced government spending and reduced government taxes.....or increased government spending and increased government taxes? If Obama actually caved in the "everything" the Tea Party wanted, we wouldn't have Obamacare, we wouldn't have had QE2, we wouldn't have moratoriums on deep sea drilling, we wouldn't be threatening to raise taxes on one segment of the population and not the rest...here I thought you were for 'equality'. Again, how is calling for LESS government similar to a dictatorship? Question for you, do you consider Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, George Washington, Samuel Adams, Alexander Hamilton to have been Statesmen? If not, why not? If so, who do you think is closer to them in action and deeds; Obama or Ron Paul?

http://m.examiner.com/exSpokane/pm_76331/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=CdhNhG2B

Lovin me some TEA!!!

voiceofreason wrote:

http://m.examiner.com/exSpokane/pm_76331/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=CdhNhG2B

Lovin me some TEA!!!

HELL YEAH! That's a great start to cleaning up the federal monster!
Thanks for the link, voT. I believe I could vote for her after reading that.

Lets take Japan or China as an example... They have no EPA. They also go for weeks without direct sunlight. raw sewage in waterways and streets and live the high life right???

NO THANKS!!!

That would be a damn good start!

The EPA is a joke, is a HUGE waste of tax payer monies, is an end around to usurping liberty, is abused more than any other government agency. As for the federal government funding/directing public education.....that is how the whole progressive movement gained traction and slowly has taken over Washington DC. That was clear back in 1904, and since then the quality of education has DECREASED while the cost of education has INCREASED. So, WTF would any sane person advocate the federal government, which has NO Constitutional right/authority to be involved in any measure, financing and directing public education? How can anyone with a brain think pinheads in DC are better qualified to make policies for people in rural Utah than the people who live in rural Utah? Nonsensical at best.

I asked you, VOR. a few questions....are you going to answer them?

voiceofreason wrote:

Lets take Japan or China as an example... They have no EPA. They also go for weeks without direct sunlight. raw sewage in waterways and streets and live the high life right???

NO THANKS!!!

Read the Constitution and the 10th Amendment again, pinhead.

Utah has every right to pass laws that keep our air and water clean. The feds DO NOT.

Uh Yeah....... Lets turn over Utah's air water and land to Rob Bishop ( is he still alive ) and that CRIMINAL Mike Noel... They've got a proven track record
of environmental stewardship don't they!!!


DRILL BABY DRILL

Call me a Treehugger PLEASE you short sighted fools!!!

PROphylactic are we going to go down this road on education???

Seems to me I could come up with one F-ing long list of
technological, medical. military and business examples developed by the greatest
publicly educated minds to grace this planet... Wanna compare lists??

Lets start with the light bulb and work our way to the iPhone.
Or the Limeys on British ships, smallpox vaccine to MRI technology.

Yep publicly educated minds ain't done much in the past few centuries right.

The comedy never ceases around here

shotgunwill wrote:

voiceofreason wrote:

PROphylactic are we going to go down this road on education???

Seems to me I could come up with one F-ing long list of
technological, medical. military and business examples developed by the greatest
publicly educated minds to grace this planet... Wanna compare lists??

Lets start with the light bulb and work our way to the iPhone.
Or the Limeys on British ships, smallpox vaccine to MRI technology.

Yep publicly educated minds ain't done much in the past few centuries right.

The comedy never ceases around here

You only came up with a handful out of millions, there are always anamolies.....

Sadly, he didn't even come up with a handful, except a handful of fertilizer. The light bulb was invented when? Was it before the federal government started meddling in public education? How about smallpox vaccinations? Tell me, where does America rank when it comes to education compared to the likes of Europe and Asia? Are we higher or lower than we were 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 years ago? Think about it, the Founders received very little, if any formal training, and they were far better educated on economics, human nature, history than 99.99999% of those with Harvard Law degrees. The quality of education, both at the elementary and collegiate levels, is pathetic now days. Instead of teaching kids about the Constitution, math, history as it actually happened, writing, arts, reading, the focus is teaching them how to put a latex on a cucumber, how Mary and Alice are as 'normal' as George and Martha, how winning isn't everything...there are no losers right?

Do a little research, you will see that the role of educating children was left to the parents and the community. It wasn't until 1904 that the federal government first started dictating to the state/local schools what/how to teach the youth. WTFU!!

HA HA OMFG!!! I am pretty sure that the Puritans back in the 1640's developed
and MANDATED that all children attend school...


Pretty sure also that the Light Bulb through todays present day iPhone encompasses plenty of technology.... Not just those two items pendejo!!

Ya'll are seriously comedy fricken jewels...

Here let me help ya out, cut to the chase so to speak.

It's called Education vs Indoctrination. Society vs Individualism.
Bringing it back full circle to your hero Ayn Rand and her individualism doctorine.

Without collabration and new ideals / trains of thought you dickheads
would still be wondering why dirt tastes like crap in your dark cold caves.
No wheel no fire nada.

Keep it up fella's the laughs are fantastic.

voiceofreason wrote:

It's called Education vs Indoctrination. Society vs Individualism.
Bringing it back full circle to your hero Ayn Rand and her individualism doctorine.

Without collabration and new ideals / trains of thought you dickheads
would still be wondering why dirt tastes like crap in your dark cold caves.
No wheel no fire nada.

Keep it up fella's the laughs are fantastic.

I am beginning to wonder if you are really a moron, or just a dumb troll. There is no way you can be serious and have an IQ over 60. Question for you bright eyes; who is in charge for the education programs in America? Is it the conservatives or the progressives? So, who is doing the indoctrination? Who has taken God out of the schools? Who has branded the Founders as racists and as greedy rich slave owners? Who has pushed the biggest hoax in human history, Climate Change? Who has insisted on teaching children in elementary school about gay lifestyles? Who has NOT taught children the MANY GREAT things this nation has done through adhering to Principles founded in God and based on human nature....AKA capitalism? You want to talk indoctrination, I am all for it, because it is the progressives that OWN that department lock, stock, and barrel. You mention Ayn Rand, how many K-12 Americans have ever heard of her, let alone been 'indoctrinated' with her individualism? Now, how many are taught that FDR 'saved' America from the Great Depression, all while never mentioning a word about his racism? You walked into the wrong department Elmer Fudd when it comes to who does the indoctrination of the children of this country! You keep spewing your socialism, but tell me ONE nation that has been under socialism that has ever flourished anywhere near what this nation did under individualism? Give me ONE!

voiceofreason wrote:

HA HA OMFG!!! I am pretty sure that the Puritans back in the 1640's developed
and MANDATED that all children attend school...

Shows how clueless and ignorant you are! I once again suggest you do some research and educate yourself on the subject before yucking it up. All you are doing is proving how uneducated you are.